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8-month-old missing, mom arrested; cops say she’s not talking
23-year-old mother Elizabeth Johnson left her Tempe, Arizona home with her 8-month-old son Gabriel Johnson on December 18, headed for San Antonio, Texas, according to local reports. While in Texas, Gabriel was believed to have been seen with his mother at a couple different hotels and allegedly at a six flags amusement park on December 26.
That was the last time anyone saw Gabriel Johnson. The following day, Johnson allegedly sends a text message and leaves a voicemail for Gabriel’s father and ex-boyfriend, Logan McQueary, telling him she killed little Gabriel. According to court documents, Johnson told McQueary that Gabriel was in a dumpster in a baby bag, describing the baby as blue colored and dead. Johnson then told McQueary she was planning to leave the country, and would tell McQueary where Gabriel’s body was when she had left. Johnson was arrested 3 days later in Miami Beach, Florida, but there was no sign of Gabriel.
A warrant was issued for Johnson’s arrest 2 days earlier after Johnson failed to show up to a custody hearing for her son. At the hearing, Johnson’s custody rights were revoked and full custody was given to Logan McQueary.
Is Gabriel Alive?
Despite the text and voice messages from Johnson claiming the baby was dead, police say there are indicators Gabriel may still be alive, including evidence that Johnson may have tried to give the baby up for adoption after the disappearance.
An Arizona couple contacted McQueary after the disappearance, asking McQueary to sign adoption papers for Gabriel. The couple, Tammi and Jack Smith, claim immediately after Johnson sent McQueary the text and voice messages saying she killed the baby, Johnson sent the Smiths a text message saying she only did that to get back at McQueary and that the baby was fine.
The Smiths are confident Gabriel is still alive, saying they were in contact with Johnson up until her arrest and could hear Gabriel through the phone in the background. The Smiths say they did not get McQueary involved in the adoption procedures earlier because Johnson told them he was abusive. However, there has been no documented history of abuse by McQueary. McQueary says after Gabriel disappeared, the Smiths tried to convince him into giving up Gabriel.
The Smiths say they were only passing along messages they were getting from Johnson and fully admit what Johnson did was wrong and they were only acting in what they thought was the best interest of the child based on what Johnson told them. The Smiths say they are cooperating fully with investigators and no longer believe the adoption is possible. Police say investigators currently do not plan to charge the couple.
FBI Joins The Case
Local police are working with the FBI to determine if Johnson carried out the murder, as she allegedly claimed to McQueary. Authorities continue to search for Johnson’s car, a white 1995 Oldsmobile Delta-88 with Arizona License Plate # AGZ4214. Police don’t know where Johnson was between leaving San Antonio on December 27 and her arrest December 30.
There is a possibility Johnson may have spent time in Nashville, according to some reports. Johnson remains behind bars awaiting extradition, and cops say she’s refusing to cooperate and tell cops where Gabriel can be found.
History of Violence?
The father, Logan McQueary, says Johnson had threatened to harm Gabriel in the past. During one incident, McQueary claims Johnson hid Gabriel, but told police McQueary had taken him. The baby was found hours later at the home of one of Johnson’s friends after police conducted a search for him.
McQueary had filed an order of protection against Johnson last summer because he said he was afraid Johnson would hurt him and Gabriel. That order was later dismissed after McQueary tried to work things out with Johnson. McQueary claims Child Protective Services has an open case against Johnson, allegedly investigating her for neglect of Gabriel.
Johnson was arrested on suspicion of criminal damage last year after an incident in September where McQueary claims Johnson tore a part of a baby crib, took a knife and cut up baby clothes, and cause over $4,000 worth of damage.
The Break-up
Johnson had broken up with McQueary on December 8…3 days later McQueary filed a request for custody of the child. McQueary says he and Johnson lived together for 2 years but broke up December 8. Johnson then called McQueary the next day December 9, telling McQueary to sign over his parental rights to a couple who wanted to adopt Gabriel.
McQueary refused to sign over his rights, and when Johnson left with Gabriel, she allegedly told McQueary he was never going to see his son again.
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If this so called mother really loved or cared for this child, she would let someone know where he is. My heart goes out to the father, how
terrible towait and hope he is okay. If I could be alone with this woman for 10 min I guarantee you she would talk. I pray everything works out for this father and his family. God Bless/
I wish woman who can't handle having kids should close their legs!! There is no excuse for this! Pop a pill or shove a diaphragm in your nasty COOCH!! Just please don't bring innocent babies into this world to hurt or kill them.. If you can't handle if KILL YOURSELF!! No-one will miss you and you'll be in a better place!!
I am a mother of 4 children. What I want to know is....what in the world is wrong with these people? First Caylee Anthony. Then Little Haleigh...now this poor sweet baby. These children did not ask to be brought into this world and these monsters they have as parents should have no rights what so ever. It makes me sick...absolutely sick.
She's just a spoiled brat who should've never had a kid! She's doing like so many other women do...using a child as a pawn to get back with a man that obviously doesn't want her! If she had the kid thinking that would make him marry her or stay with her then she should do the real motherly thing and let him keep the child if he is fit, which at least it sounds like he has some paternal instinct while she truly lacks the maternal!
This women belongs in a nut house...
What is society coming to ? Does it come down to treating children like a piece of meat. Why even have kids if she is going to be this way? Sad, very sad.
Nancy,
Please urge nationally to the audience to please report if they know someone that has recently & unexpectedly came up with a baby. Also if the persons responsible for receiving the baby to come forward. Thanks & keep up the great work!!
3 days after the couple splits she is already trying to get rid of her own son? That just doesn't seem to be right.
The is a big possibility that she really did kill the baby and he could be in any dumpster from SA, TX to MIA, FL. Let's pray this baby is alive and healthy.
I lkistened to your show on 1/5/10 regarding this Mom hiding the baby but I didn't hear anything about cell phone pings or conversations. Has that been investigated?
Did the police check the San Antonio airport for the vehicle? She may have taken a plane to Florida.
I just wanna say that it makes me sick that people have healthy babies and treat them like unwanted pets and give them away or kill them. I have a grandbaby who was born 3 months premature, in the hospital fighting for her life. They should sterilize people like her so they can't bring another innocent baby in the world for it to happen again. I see another casey anthony scenerio.
Because Elizabeth has "hidden" the baby at a friends house and claimed him missing before– does anyone know if she has friends in Florida? For that matter, does she have friends in any state between Texas and Florida? I believe she has someone keeping the baby to cause a stir between her and the father. Seems like she likes doing that...? Someone has the car and the baby. Afterall, she got to Florida somehow??
I think that if she cared so much, she would talk and let people know whertre the baby was. Some people should be sterilized as they don't need kids. Kids are a blessing, not a tool to hurt other people with. Children should not be weapons. I would love to hold that baby and show him some love. Not everyone is like his so-called mother. She needs to be shot, as she can't care for this baby. She is a mental case. The people that she supposedly gave the baby need to come forward ASAP or be charged as accessories. Children are our future.
Has it crossed anyone's mind that she may have traveled to Florida WITH the couple she gave the child to?
Some people should NEVER have children. WTF was she thinking? Not about the child at all just about how she can get revenge and using the child, SICKO, put her away!!! I say the baby is alive and well, but better put mom away or next time he may not be. This story sickens me!!!
Regarding the child in question, I hope that the authorities are looking into "Adoption Agencies" in the San Antonio area. I have heard of adoptions that have adopted out children to other states. Having Relinquishments of a parents rights signed off and then certified by "notary" of the secondary biological parent, or if the mother does not state a father on the paper that they then sign off. It can be arrange like over night. I know that there is no funding allowed for the exchange. But, I have heard of adoptions that cannot go forward but somehow are privately funded in San Antonio. Just because she couldn't legally work something out with this couple, doesn't mean that an alternate resolution wasn't dealt with, through a different or same agency but more of the illegal avenues . I have heard of mothers being compensated on even a weekly/monthly not lump sum, also that hotel/vehicle expenses. It isn't unheard of. I just wouldn't assume the baby is not living, that could be her sickening way of explaining the baby being gone. I don't know just I wouldn't focus only one one avenue. I hope the baby is alive. I just have heard of families flying from other states to get a child there, on limited and it possibly not being on the 'up and up".
another beautiful innocent baby, my prayers to all
CPS should have been envolved in this case when the mom tore up all the clothing and furniture. She is the most narcissistic person since the case with little Casey. I'm sure because she looks 15 and is pretty she will get gentle treatment and probably has been spoiled all her life.
I just cant believe that any mother, any parent for that matter would harm there child in any way. It seems like these days thats all you hear about. I do pray for Gabriel, I hope that he is still alive. Elizabeth has no heart at all, no love for her child, if she did she would not have held that baby over his fathers head. The police need to do to her what she did to Gabriel and leave her in her own soiled diapers. As a mother myself I couldnt see myself without my child and couldnt see myself giving my child up to someone I didnt even know. I wouldnt be able to sleep at night not knowing if he was safe or if he had enough to eat, If he was warm enough. Some people are so cruel. We will have baby Gabriel in our prayers tonight and hope that he is reunited with his father.
felicia
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My wife and I have been talking about this. Could the mom have post-partum depression? That might help explain what appears to be several instances of bizarre behavior.
I think that she is just purely acting out becuase she seems young and he looks much older, what is the young mental compacity
I have been listening to your program and I don't understand way some of the people keep saying she's protecting her son. Protecting him from who? It seems to me that she is a childish young mother, who is upset with her son's father. I don't think she should have the right to decide on her own about what's best for her child. The father was good enough to lay down with and make her son; so he should be able to raise him if she chooses not too. I am a young mother. I had my daughter when I was a sophomore in college. My daughter is now in middle school and I'm teaching. I received my degree when my daughter was three. I can't imagine doing what this young lady has done.
Our prayers are with baby Gabriel. I've posted all the information and links on my facebook and myspace hoping someone will call in with more information. I don't understand how someone can harm a child. It makes me hold my children tighter. I hope God reaches into her heart and shows her she need to give any truthful information to the police. If she didn't want to be a mom she should have been responsible enough to prevent it! It outrages me to see this type of thing happening more often. Prayers are needed!
I read about this situation on a local website, I live in Arizona not far from Tempe. What bothers me is that the father did not remove this baby from that horrible situation. He came home from work after five hours and find the child crying and still in the same diaper. He said that he would ask Johnson what she was doing and she would scream for him to shut that thing up refering to her baby. I am a single parent with four children and couldn't imagine letting any child at all suffer that kind of abuse. He is not much of a parent, whatever the circumstances that child shouldn't have been with his mother. The baby is supposed to come first other his parents relationship.
This is horrid. Surely, they have someone in LE that can make this sicko talk! Wheather it's a tough policeman, psychiatrist, or someone else, SOMEONE can make this woman talk!! Perhaps a good atty. could. Whatever the case, I know someone can make her talk. Put her in solitary confinement ... do whatever it takes. That baby must be found asap.
If the FBI cannot make this woman talk, they are in the wrong business.
commenting on the missing gabrial child:
PLEASE TAKE UNDER CONSIDERATION
there r many underground placements that a people can put a child in underground as long as they have a good enough story about abuse or fearing for their lives. with the minipulation that she has had on the people that she has been involved with and the lies she has told, it would be no problem placing a child in an underground placement. and they would give her rides or what ever she needed to get where she wated to go. and the sad thing about it is the underground will and does have the ability to give new birth certificates and social security numbers to to these children and/or motheres. the thing is that when the heat gets bad, they will move the child over seas . if tey have to, to "keep them safe". many churches r involved and people with strong beliefs that the child and or mother r in danger. it would be easy for her to set up to get help in a different state and say "i killed the baby" only meaning that the identity has been "killed" or changed and it would b impossible for the father to locate the child. she may have signed over her rights and told them that the father was very abusive, and at no cost, release the child to him. she then could have told them she woulddeal with the courts and they would have drove her to her destination and told them when she gets out she will come for the baby. happens more than we realize, but it happens.
This woman is a sad excuse for a mother and I'm growing so sick seeing all of these mothers killing their children!! I hope and pray that this beautiful child is found alive, but what mother in her right mind would speak of killing her child regardless of whether its true? For a mother to even think of that is heartless and insane, only this woman was clearly sane talking of leaving the country, which is likely why she fled to Florida. I think the hospitals should start doing an in depth mental analysis of mothers and significant others for the benefit of the child. NO CHILD DESERVES TO BE BORN TO PARENTS THAT ARE GOING TO MISTREAT AND ultimately KILL THEM!
We should start a reward fund to help find the child. Thanks
Ok, can't we just can't some of those women in prison to beat the mother up and tell where the kid is? I hope that he is alive and well, but since this seems to be a mother who has never grown up, than maybe we should start to think about the fact that she sold the kid to someone and spent the money before she got to where she was arrested.
It takes one sick B**** to do something like this and even sicker if she is just doing this to get the dad back...I tell you what would stop this mess...if law enforcement and judges would stop labeling these pieces of s*** with having mental issues and whatever way they killed their child they should suffer the same death...even being put in trash bags and dumpsters...This world has sick people in it because they are allowed to be that way because everytime someone does something ignorant they are called crazy and has mental evaluations..hell no they are not crazy but damnt society has allowed this type of behavior to go on to long..and its time someone puts a stop to it. Every single time you turn on the television someone has killed a child or even worse their own child. This makes no sense, I pray to the good Lord above, that this precious baby makes it out alive and safe, I have 3 little boys, and I hate to see them cry let alone to be hurt....what is wrong with people.
This woman should have lost custody until she had a complete mental evaluation after tearing apart a crib and cutting up baby clothes. No normal mother does this! I pray this child is safe somewhere. The couple that wanted to adopt the child were ignorant not to get the police involved for the babies well being. Something is fishy here.
what is wrong with these people? I can't believe this whole story. why didn't those people who were supposed to adopt this baby call the police?? Didn't they think something was wrong when a young girl is trying to give them her child? What is going on in our world? PRESIDENT OBABMA COULD CREATE JOBS JUST BY CREATING AN ORGANIZATION THAT PROTECTS OUR CHILDREN BETTER. OBVIOUSLY THE AGENCIES WE HAVE IN PLACE JUST AREN'T ENOUGH. WE NEED THIS TO STOP!!! IT'S A DAMN SHAME! MY HEART IS JUST BREAKING HEARING ALL THESE HORROR STORIES!
All I can say about this mom is "water-board" her until she talks.
that poor child is dead may she rot in hell
I cant believe a mother can do this to her own baby. I really hope the baby is alive and gets to be with is father they are in my prayers...
That is one beautiful child.
I guess we've come to assume the worst in these cases, but that doesn't make it any easier to digest. Particularly for those of us with kids, it is very clear she used this baby as a pawn to manipulate people for her own agenda.
It is unfathable how anyone could even suggest their own child's body is blue and lying alone in a dumpster. The fact that she made that claim at all is very telling. I couldn't even say a thing like that about my kids, it's inconceivable. I can't even go there, it's such a horrible thing to visualize.
She seems to have that monster mentality that seems to go with taking your child's life, ala Casey Anthony.
Saying you "gave" your child to a couple you met at a rest stop is as ridiculous as saying you took two toddlers camping in freezing, icy weather at midnight then forgot what day it was.
Unbelievable.
Has the mom possibly been diagnosed with Post Partum depression or psychosis? just a thought!
I hope this little baby is found and alive! It tears me up inside to hear about these stories! I can't believe a mother would do that to her own child just to spite an ex boyfriend! As a mother of an 8 month old as well, I can't fathom ever putting my child through harm! I can't imagine what the father is going through! My thoughts and prayers are with this child!
When a parent or an adult abuses or harms a child in any way, shape, or form, we are almost so used to waiting on the next day to hear yet another innocent life taken. This is a human crisis in our country, and sadly it will continue.
i sure hope the find that precious little baby boy alive.the cops should give the mom a lie dectorer if its legal in that state.whats wrong with mothers who whould this to a baby or child.i hear cases like this alot and makes me sick to my stomach.god bless nancy that you inform the public. i watch your show every night.
that man should never see the day of light again. he should be put to death...all these people that hurt kids should be put to death and go straight to the line A S A P.put them all to death and the 1's that have been on death roll. they say prison are so full do your job and put all the 1's to death on death roll. there are some that are in there 25 years on death roll. why, its crap. dont feed them and save money and put all to death they dont need to wait that long. start doing job and you will have room and when a nother 1 comes up do it and you got a new cell open to use..they get better treating than the family that they destroyed. come to kids they should be put to death before the age of the child. if child is like 6 or 7. they should be put to death not wait in there past how old the child was. so death on death roll before there age they kill then or hurt.. as many on death roll would sure open alot of cells. why waist money on them all these years. they should never be on death roll that long. they get death dont wait get it done and go on to all the rest of them thats in there for so so long....
I've seen a lot of mothers out there killing their babies. I really think it's them who don't deserve to be alive! I'm very angry! I have 3 girls, a 16, 14 and an 8 month old baby. I had my first baby at 16 and my second at 18 years old. Now I'm 33 and have an 8 month old baby. I hear a lot of excuses for these mothers, either they not sane, have mental problems! PLEASE! I think these are just excuses for them to get away with killing babies! Baby blue or post partum depression, whatever it is they want to call it! These are just things that mothers can use as an excuse for killing and that it's them who are the victims! I don't think so! I really hope that they suffer the same way if not worse than what these babies have gone through! They are sick people! Honestly, these are the type of people who I wouldn't mind getting killed! Baby killers don't deserve to enjoy life! I know my words are very strong, but I am sick to my stomach of what they do to their own baby! Nancy keep up the good work!
Yet again another woman not fit to be a mother. I hope this gorgeous baby is found safe & well
This story is a great example of the Family Services system failing a father. Typical standard of leaving a child with a CLEARLY disturbed woman, instead of allowing the father to maintain custody of their child. It's unfortunate that this little boy could have had a better chance if he'd been granted to the father. If the situation had been reversed, with the father doing what she has gotten away with in the past, Child Services would have yanked that little boy out of the home in minutes...but yet Child Services allows a psychotic mother that has already threatened to kill him to keep him while behaving like a maniac. It's disgusting!!! I really hope that the little boy is still alive so that the father can have a chance at being a better provider and more STABLE parent than the egg donor sitting in jail now. I really hope that she stays locked up and is never allowed near another child!
praying for the little boys safety.
This sociopath piece of trash needs to be drugged to get the info and if she killed him then she dies.
Um, Why did she have the chance to keep the child. She obviously had an issue if she broke up the crib and cut up clothes causing that much damage. The system is failing our children. Kids are staying in abusive homes due to budget issues. They are going back to homes due to budget issues. This needs to stop.
I really think the mom should talk or she should be put i jail for muder
Because this mother has "hidden" the baby at a friends house and claimed it missing to spite the husband before, does anyone know if she has friends in Texas or Flordia? (or any state between) Does her Facebook/Myspace or any other account show that she has friends there? I believe she would do this just to claim baby missing again and go about her way of taunting this father. I know the car was found but she told the hopeful adoptive parents that the car could possibly be ____ or ____. I believe whoever mother set up to have the car, also was set up to have the baby and still does-
I think however this turns out for Gabriel and his father Logan,(happily i hope) i think authoroties should throw the book at this woman, several actually !
Hey my name is jason bowers i go to school at KATE DUCAN SMITH DAR up in graint AL, And I just wont to say That is wrong in the mother
Doing the that way the mother does not no how to take care of the baby give it back to the father.
I will never understand someone wanting to hurt a baby. There are so many couples in this country that can not have children biologically that would provide a loving home for an unwanted baby brought into this world by someone else. I pray that this baby is found alive and well. If she didn't really kill him, I hope that he is with someone who is more responsible and caring than his mother has been.
Give me 5 minutes alone with that "mother"...just 5 minutes....
Nancy, It's circumstances like this that waterboarding comes to mind. Where is her family? Does her mother/father have any influence on her? I don't understand these people that have babies just to abuse or murder them. I have no patience with her. Leave me alone with her for an hour and the b-- would talk. I'm praying for baby Gabriel. Keep up the good work Nancy!
P.S. haven't heard anything lately on the boy that was taken off the school bus by police and given to some man? whats happened with that poor child?
i am appaled by this mothers actions i was watching the show last night and could not fathem how a mother could hand over her own flesh and blood and have no remorse. And none the less neglect and innocent child thats helpless. I pray for the family and the safe return of this baby boy. and nancy i love your show and your emotions towards the children that are being show on your show with your help another child may make it home safe so god bless
Wow talk about some messed up parents. Maybe the baby would be best if given up for adoption. Dad may never be free of his ex.
there comes a time when I think torture is ok..this mother and I really dont think she should even be called mother since she is such a awful one from what I have read. If it was my child and he was missing and in harms way and someone had said the things she has,,torture the B*#$* until she tells you where the baby is..than lock her up in the nut house for good!
Sounds like this girl is a nut case. I pray for the same return of little Gabriel and hope he and his father can move on without this woman in their lives. Poor little boy
Although she's not a psycho, she's an emotionally disturbed young woman who has used this poor baby as a pawn.
my god is this chick crazy? She has NO regard for his life at all....Leave me alone with her in a room and I'll find out where he is....What kind of MONSTER is she? What kind of idiots for parents did she have? Why didn't bio-dad do something before this? What was his thinking......She is hardly stable. I pray with all my heart they find this beautiful boy ALIVE! Please someone step up if you know anything..........
She made a few statements.. " I Trusted them", and "I believed they were good ppl"? So whats changed.. why is those past tense statements? If it were true I think it would make more sense if she said "I trust them" and "I beleive they are good ppl". I bet they are gonna find that little baby's body and she is gonna blame "the couple" GRRR makes me sick, another sorry excuse for a parent harming a baby!
Is there a criminal charge for a parent who refuses to tell where a child is? If not I believe there should be a very harsh sentence for not producing a 'healthy child' people are concerned about.
Look at Casey Anthony.. What if there was no evidence of a crime? Would she have been free to do what she wanted, by just refusing to answer questions about her daughter?
It's times like this, that some people need to take that "mother" into a sound proofed room, and beat the living hell out of her, until she talks!
Hhere is where zero tolerance belongs...no excuses, no rights, no reasons are acceptable for harming a child.
This is what pisses me off about America "criminals rights", put me in a room with her, 60 seconds and she'd be singing like a bird, but nooooooooooooo that's against their "RIGHTS" what about this poor childs rights? The father should have been more agressive and turned her into CPS himself. She should be fixed also pycho's like that should not be allowed to breed.
This is the type of case where the child would for sure be better off with the father. I think there are a lot of cases like this ,where mom just uses the child as a weapon against the father, what a disgrace to the meaning of the word "mother".
What I want to know, is that if she really did "give the baby to a couple in San Antonio"- why hasn't anyone been tracking that couple down, and I don't think I believe it because certainly that couple would have come forward by now!
This is such a sad story for the child. Where is he? These parents need to grow up and live, work, and provide for their children, not for only themselves. Can't the police check the cell phone pings to see where she was? Can't they check her previous messages and calls? Rights should be taken away when a minor is involved. Lets protect our children!!!! Even if they aren't ours.
Meth head?? or just Nut job?
The most important thing is to find where this beautiful baby is, lets hope alive but doubtful. This piece of garbage so called mother desreves to be executed, no mercy for her. Any normal mother or human being would never harm a child. Our laws in the USA need to change and if you harm a child execution is the sentence. So disturbing.
I am blesses with 3 kids of my own and everytime i hear a story where a mother acts like their baby is some accessory my heart bleeds. I would die before I would give my child anyway because their father did not want me! i pray for this baby and I hope that the police will not take it easy on her just because she looks pretty and is young a cold, evil heart can beat in anything. And I do pray that baby is safe and with a good family because if she just sold that baby then he will really need our prayers.
Gave baby up for adoption? Left baby with Zenieda? Hmm.
She says she gave her up to protect her, but from whom? The bio-father? Just what has she alleged that he has done that requires her to "protect" this child?
This is an unconscienable offense. The "mother" should be given sodium penathol and the truth she be forced out of her. Seriously, why do we worry about these peoples civil rights? I think when a parent is suspect in a childs death, disappearance or battering they should be forced to tell the truth. Another Casey Anthony????? Enough's enough already. Why these types of people continue to breed is beyond me...
sad story they should hang her by her ears til she tells all. the criminal system needs to get harder if they want answers. there would be less crime in the world if they start the an eye for an eye. fry this pig if she killed that inocent baby.
Why is it that some Parent's want to use there Children to hurt each other, that is so sad, this Woman(will not call her a mother) is only thinking of her self and how to hurt the Dad. What a shame, I hope and Pray the find this baby now.
I can't believe what kind's of sick things people do out there invoving children. That mother has no interst in keeping Gabriel safe, she just wants to keep him from his daddy. She needs to tell police now where that precious child is & sign over custody to the father. To make remarks of killing the baby with such detail is just sickening to my stomach. She really need's to tell police where Gabriel is, so he can come home and this will be all over. I'm praying for your safe return, Gabriel.
Why don't they issue an Amber Alert if they believe the child is still alive?!
People may say what they want, but this is a a 'real reason for parental kidnapping.
The father should have taken off with the baby, forget asking the crazed inhumane pod of a mother!
she needs to be spayed and sent to hell.
Austin, TX
One of the articles that I read said the car seat was in the car when they found it in San Antonio. That makes me think that she is lying about giving the child to someone. I think he's got to be right in that area around the car. Also, if someone just gave me a child in a park the first thing I would do is call the police. If there is a couple that she gave him to, then what does that say about them? They may not be good people if they haven't contacted athorities.
I pray that this father get's his child back and that this selfish and narcissistic mother never gets any visitation without it being supervised. It seems that she has big problems with controlling her anger and this child, if alive, would always be in danger around her.
As a woman who cannot have children, stories like these are always so hard to hear. I've been on an adoption list, waiting years for a child. I would have loved to have him. All she had to do was say so. I hope little Gabriel is okay and the mother goes to jail for a loooong time!
I can't believe this woman! Why in the hell would you put your own flesh and blood in harms way just to get back at his dad! That is so wrong and this woman needs to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law! how in the world could you ever just "leave" your baby somewhere or hide your child and not tell anyone where he is. Is she not thinking of what her poor little boy could be going through? What a horrible person she deserves to rot in a jail cell and never see the light of day again!
What I do NOT understand, is why did the police allowed her to keep the baby after all she did?!?! She clearly neglected her child and put him in dangerous situations numerous times, yet they still let her keep custody. CPS should have taken that little boy, and maybe just maybe they would know where he is right now!
Also, the father said that he would come home and the baby would be crying in a dirty diaper and the mother would say, "shut that thing up!" What an unbelievable viscious thing to say about a baby. It scares me to think of this boy's future if he is around his mother. Has anyone here read the book "A Child Called It"? It's about the horrible abuse that a boy suffered at the hands of his munipulative and resentful mother. Who does that remind you of?
This Elizabeth girl seems extremely angry, volatile, munipulative, and resentful not only towards the father, but also towards her own child. I think she is extremely unstable and should not be around her child at all. That kind of an environment is extremely upsetting for a baby or a child of any age. My heart goes out to the father as well. When and if he get's the baby back, I hope he sets up a website so we can send help for him and the boy.
I think she did kill the baby. Hope not, really hope she did not. Where is her family? Her mom to talk to her and make her tell the truth? The father has some fault here because he knew what kind of crazy person she was and still left the Baby with her to suffer. Pray to God this beutiful baby is alive and well.
This sounds like an undiagnosed case of severe post partum depression. That mother needs help immediately. Please please God, let this baby be alive!
I do not understand people saying the child should be with his father, it sounds to me like he is just the lesser of two evils. If he was aware of the mothers neglect & her trashing the childs posessions then I don't think he is father of the year material. I hope the child is found safe & sound, & that there is a decent person with some claim to this child who will step up & take care of him. Meantime, throw the book at this woman, that is why we have a death penalty in this country! I am a young mother & I would like my 5 minutes with her too!!!
This 20's-30's generation has been pampered and must grow up. I am older and when we were women in our early 20's – we had children and cared for them and did not party or primp ourselves - our main objective was to grow up and be good parents. I think there are too many 20 and 30 year olds that refuse to grow up and become responsible citizens and responsible parents. If you don't want to care for these children - stay celebate. Too many irresponsible 20 and 30 year old roaming around - it is going to be bad when this generation is in control of things.
what a beautiful baby.
How could a mother do this, ever.
It was in December and If she didnt even get the urge to buy her son a christmas present, or want to spend it with him then there is something wrong with her.
Her maternal instinct has been removed apparently.
i just hope and pray he is with the other couple, and hope that they are better than his psycho birthmom.
I agree with angel execution for harming hip hip hooray!
If they find out where the pings were located at the time she sent the text that she killed the baby, that might be the area they need to really look into. This baby is so beautiful. I think she may have learned a little TOO much from Casey Anthony.
why aren't there AMBER alert issue?
In my opinion, after this child is either found alive or possibly is the child is dead, the mother of this child needs to die. Gas her on national TV. If people knew that they were going to get killed for this, they probably would not do it. I know there are a lot of people that would disagree, but what is being done now, is not working to stop this form of child abuse. Yes I believe in spanking, not beating, but spanking. I was spanked as a child and I almost appreciate that my parents kept me in line and taught me right from wrong. I now have a child and I would go crazy if something happened to my boy. I could never live with the pain if I were to lose him.
I am thinking that a little waterboarding might loosen her lips.....
Women like this dont even deserve to be a mother!!!!!!!! If she did do what she says she did, she should be out to the death penalty immediatley!!!!!!! Anyone who could harm a child is just one less person we need in this world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I hope I am wrong-and pray to God I am-but why wouldn't she talk to cops unless she is hiding the fact that she killed her baby? She already was abusing/neglecting him. I hope she is in prison for a long time, but in reality-she'll go away for maybe 10 years, get out, get pregnant again and do the same thing all over again.
Yes! this is heartbreaking to hear of yet another offense against a child by the hands of anyone other then God. It is tragic and shouldn't happen to anyone. What I find oppressive is these lawyers who respresent these individuals, and shows that basically instruct these individuals of their right to remain silent and to lawyer up as soon as possible. Only binding the hands of real law enforcement officers. Yes, these types of shows are great for locating missings individuals, but have their roles gone to far! Co-hosts and experts are getting paid to bring you the stories, they profit by your ratings. I feel at times there is to much being said; we know that in many of these cases the family is the first to be ruled out. These show are depressing anytime a child is involved. Caylee Anthony's case was as thought she was a member of my own family. I empathized with George and Cindy with the coverage of one such graceful show's coverage. Yes, I could have turn the channel and many times I did. It was a over kill. But I ask myself how people are drawn into such shows? We should know we are living in a age when none of us are safe and especially our children. No matter where you live you're not exempt and that is the real lesson to be told. We need to be vigilant everyday. These things are happening to much in our culture and it needs to be stop. We need shows to remind us as citizens on how to aleviate these types of crimes and to inform the public how important it is to report any suspicious crimes against persons. Until then we are all culpable.
If every there was a case for water boarding, this would be it.......
I think Both Parents need help. The Mother is a complete nut case in my opinion and very dangerous. what I can’t understand is how the Father can reconcile with This crazy Lady knowing that she is a threat to his son. This baby was being used and that is disgraceful. There should be a law that people like her get the operation to insure this never happens again. She does not deserve to have a child. Children are a gift from God and most mothers have an unconditional love and instinct to care and protect a child. Mothers who do not possess these attributes obviously will possess psychotic tendencies and are dangerous.My heart goes out to the Father of this child . I pray for the safe return of his son, and I pray that This monster is locked up for life.!!!!!
I feel for this father! After dealing with my husband's psycho exwife and fighting for custoday of his 2 kids- and actually winning, father's now are getting more and more rights and courts are seeing that its not so uncommon that the mother's are unfit. This woman is psycho and needs to be sterilized and locked away! This poor guy and to put him through all this turmoil is absolutely ludicrous. I pray for this child and his father. Psychos making all these false allegations – OMG! Psycho B!tch!
Too bad she's crazy... she's kind of hot...
Myself being someone who cannot naturally have a child of my own, these are the things that I do not understand and cannot even comprehend. Why are there parents out there who obviuosly should not be able to have children and there are married couples who would love and care for a child as much as imaginable cannot?? These stories tear my heart out. My prayers are with that baby and the everyone in that family, that is except for the mother!
I am thinking in this case the mother should indure a little torturing to make her speak on the location of the child.We are talking about a defenseless baby who cannot help themselves. Maybe a slightly less torture such as ****WATERBOARDING****** will be sufficient.
I feel just raw inside from hearing all of these stories of mother's killing their babies especially out of vengence. Society seems to becoming immune and no one is protecting these precious children from these very sick people. These children maybe part of someone you are mad at or hate but ultimately they are a part of you as well and should be treasured. So sad.
I am a young single mom, and hearing this kind of stuff makes me sick. I have gone through hell in the short 4 yrs my son has been alive, however I have never and would never do anything to put him in harms way. When you are young and pregnant you go through your options, everyone does. You think about abortion, you think about adoption and you think about raising that child. When you make that decision to raise that child, you have to also take into concideration that you will more than likely be raising that child by yourself. If you cant imagine doing that, adoption is the way to go, because if you are one of those girls who always has to have a man support, you are going to end up like this girl. Putting your man and your relationship before your child. That is ridiculously selfish and disgusting.
I know the fathers side of this family personally. A judge made the dad hand over the baby to this crazy woman! GREAT SYSTEM HUH.
WHERE ARE HER PARENTS – THEY CAN GET IT OUT OF HER WHERE THE BABY IS!
People kick there older kids out when they are tired of playing parent – it seems that no one has any respect for human life – children are a gift and do not ask to be here – God gives them to us to take care of and teach, love grow them into responsible adults – now days people get tired of there kids and get rid of them – where is this all going to end?
As I stated upove, I am a young single mom, I am 23. I am not allowed to be in my parents life at all. My parents ar ehte ones who got to a certain point and decided they didnt need to my parents anymore. It isnt easy being on this side of things.
The Friend Of the Court Systems need to be reviewed and changed!
No Mother or father should be able to take a baby out state without both parents consent! I and my son Have not seen or heard from my Grandson's mother since may 2009 ! Yet we get no one to listen to us. All they want is his child support! We have no clue if there alive , well, where they are NOTHING! This is happening way to much and needs to stop. Young mothers having babies they do not even want. In My grandson;s mothers case she already has 2 children taken away yet was able to leave with my grandson! I Pray everyday He is Alive and Doing well. No Help In MICHIGAN!
This is very sad. I think she probably sold the baby to someone and doesnt want to tell anyone because of the money involved. And I agree with alot of yall but if the baby was sold on the "black market" then good luck because I dont think they will find him. They have ways of getting babies out of the country and us never finding them. but this baby will be in my prayers for sure and i hope if the baby is dead that the mother gets what she rightfully deserves because i am a mother of 3 beautiful girls and i could never hurt my babies. A child doesnt ask to be brought into this world. It is us as parents who decide to bring them here and if you dont want a child there is other people who cant for whatever reasons have kids who will give your baby the life it deserves. or there is always birth control.
I think there should be a much harsher punishment for these parents that have these children and abuse them. I believe in cases like these it should be an eye for an eye! It saddens me because I can't imagine even treating a Dog the way parents sometimes treat their children. God help America.
This sounds like a young mother that has bit off more than she can chew. It is ashamed this baby was not adopted out at birth! She is using this innocent child as a way to get back at the father. This child should have been taken from her to begin with if abuse was reported...too many people are dropping the ball on these cases of child neglect. Please GOD let this baby be found safe and alive!!!
Some one must know where her parents are, and she must know people in these states TX, Fla??? Come on, you don't just take a care with no money and leave AZ and make it all the way to Florida without someones help. I pray this baby is still alive and brought back where he is from, and then send her up the creek without the paddles.
I have not heard anything about grandparents of Gabriel. Where are they? What do they know? Couldn't they have helped take care of their own grandchild? Are there aunts, uncles, cousins somewhere?
My thoughts are deepest prayers go out to Gabriel. I hope that God is with him and protecting him. I wish I could bring home every neglected and abused child. I would keep them warm and safe and hug them every chance I got. I hope that Gabriel, wherever he is, can feel all the love that so many people have for him.
I'm beginning to wonder if these people are doing these horrible things just to attract national attention to themselves. They seem to thrive on the attention. I hope with all my heart the baby is okay. I question whether these people who wanted to adopt the baby have any knowledge of the baby's present whereabouts.
Has has the mother's computer been checked? Is it possible that she was communicating with the couple she gave the baby to prior to meeting them at the park?
I hope they check the dumpster at the hotel where they found her car.
Since the couple wasn't married, did the dad ligitimate(sp) the son? If not he wouldn't have say if she gave him up for adoption....
Has anybody thought to put out an Amber Alert here in Texas? If the child was given to somebody in Texas believe me the Amber Alert will flush them out.
Someone approaches my husband and I with a baby – we would tell her anything to get baby and we'd be with Authorities within an hour. You just don't give up your child to strangers. Big RED FLAG.
The couple who was to adopt Gabriel tonight on the show were talking about how they wanted to hire an attorney and try to help this women to get full custody so she could sign off on the adoption? Did I hear this wrong? The couple that were going to adopt Gabriel, were they not questioning why the father was not willing to sign the adoption papers? If they had done more homework themselves would they not have found out more information on this mother via the father and all the "kookoo" things she's done in the past and realize that Gabriel was really not available for them to adopt? Either way, this women is a nutjob and it's apparent she's only ever used this child as a pawn to get back at the father. So sad.
You mentioned on the show tonight that this mother's story about meeting the couple at the campground was very similar to the one where she met the couple that wanted to originally adopt the baby. To me, that seems more suspicious, more as if she made this up, like she took the original facts and twisted them to meet this time. I am very afraid that this is like Casey Anthony. I feel sorry for the father and I wish everyone, including the potential adoptive parents, would not bad-mouth him without knowing him. At least he seems to care about his child. He did call the poice when he thought something was wrong.
The Smiths – WOW. On Wed. show, the Smiths appeared. WHY? Mr. Smith did not answer Nancy's questions directly. He kept referring to how he thinks clearly and that the baby mamma isn't thinking clearly. That doesn't answer the question. The question from Nancy was: Do you know why baby mamma would give away the baby to a stranger. And then Nancy asked him another question and he said: "May I interject. We have contacts- isn't that cool? We got info from a radio station etc." WHAT? These people should have/may have given all the pertinent info to the police about their contact, knowledge, phone call yesterday, the camp site, etc. etc. Why in heaven's name are they on the TV show unless they want some fame? These people are flakey and he is not what he appears to be. Something is screwy there.
I feel so sorry for the father of this little boy. Why would a couple wanting to adopt the baby be on tv and not the father? Unbeleivable!!! You keep saying they had planned, but not very well from the looks of things. You never plan on adopting a baby who has another parent when you have not even talked to that other parent. Now it sounds like they are covering for that phsyco. Oh yes she is such a wonderful mother. I feel sorry for the father and the little boy. Not these people who have been obviously duped by a true nut case. All I can do is pray that he gets his little boy back.
i am literaly sick to my stomach to think a mother could live a little helpless baby who knows nothing but love. Does she have relatives and are they hiding the baby?Did they check the hotel motel phone in her room or cell phone.?I hope that someone with a compassionate heart is taking good care of this little angel?Will be praying for this little baby
If someone was upset in an airport and wanted to give you a baby, whould you say ok, give me the baby? I would call the police. This couple is crazy! You don't just take a baby. They claim they knew her for 2 weeks and she is telling the truth. Be real! Sounds like Casey Anthony. They don't know her. They just want to get on TV.
If she was so concerned about his welfare, she would call the police and get a restraining order on the father. You don't take the baby on a trip and give the baby to total strangers. The Smiths should have thought that something was wrong with this picture. They look like idiots. I Ihate to say this but, I think the baby is no longer with us. I hope I'm wrong.
I believe that, in light of your show, and the adoptive couple's comments that they need to be really looked at in terms of the possibility that they had involvement in a long distance hand off and hiding of this child - I hope that law enforcement will check their bank account records and the possibility that they have taken an over interest in this child - if they wanted to adopt they would have contacted child protective long before this - I do not understand because it seems that this mother already had a plan - and the father was not going to allow it - – it seems very likely that these people might have encouraged an out of state hand over the baby and hiding the baby because they love him – - also the prospective adoptive father's statements were confusing and very defensive - – just a thought –
i feel so sorry for that poor kid who would be so stupid
and refuse to help the police
I hope she hasn't murdered this baby. It's amazing to me that, with her history w/the baby, anyone would let her within a mile of him. The father sounds like he has been a victim of this nutcase, too. I'm glad Mark Klass and Daniel Horiwitz (hope spelling of names is correct) spoke up in defense of the father b/c the couple on NG was making him out to be a monster. If the father had done what the mother did, CPS would have made sure he was never left alone w/ the child again. The father might not have been perfect, but he was a much better choice than the looney mother. I just hope the little boy is found safe and sound, and his mother never has a chance to use/hurt him again.
Nancy,
I watch your show every night. I am a former investigator for the Bexar County District Attorney's Office which is in San Antonio, Texas.
My comments are regarding the missing 8-mo. tot. I certainly pray that this precious child is alive and I think it is possible. Raymond Russell Park is in a very affluent neighborhood which is approximately ten miles from the closest urban area. This park is predominately frequented by 20-40 year old adults with children and/or young single adults. The mom would have passed by this park on her way into the San Antonio area. While San Antonio has a 60% Hispanic population, this park would have patrons that are mostly Anglo.
The reason I have hope is that she would not know the name of this park had she not really been there. Also, while it is on her way into San Antonio, it is on the opposite side of the expressway (not easily noticed) and it is far away from where her car was found.
It is amazing how many young people do not watch television and especially not the news, so I am praying that whoever might have this child just may be some of those people that don't watch the news.
I start watching the news at 5am and this story has been on the news but I have not seen the media make an appeal to the people who supposedly have this child to return him.
Footnote: This park is next to a beautiful cemetery.
Thank you.
Michelle Oakes
Albuquerque, NM News mentioned about a person calling in to report that He or She saw a toddler floating on the Rio Grand this afternoon. Search crew have not found the toddler. No one around this area has report about a toddler missing?!
Mon either sold the baby for cash and/or drugs OR she killed her baby. If she gave baby to stangers those people would have went to the police. If she sold baby then of course they would not.
Godspeed little man...wherever you are.
I pray that you are safe.
I don't get how someone could use an innocent baby in spite of someone else.
Sad.
My thoughts are with you daddy.
They should put her and Misty Cumming in the same room with no food, water or cigarettes until they both fess up to where the kids are that they took and hopefully didn't harm.
Nancy, what is it with people?!! Having kids when they really don't want them or can't handle having them is just nuts!! This case makes me sooo angry cause it sounds just like Casey Anthony, except this woman seemed to know who the baby daddy was.
I feel in my gut that this child has died just like sweet little Caylee. Her story just doesn't add up & she's not talking. My heart goes out to all who truely loved this little boy. I can't imagine what his father is feeling, it just boggles the mind.
Does Arizona have a death penalty or is possible if it's found out she did kill the boy in another state can that state step in?
I'd like to see her rot in hell right beside Casey Anthony. 'Nuff said.
This is why I believe in torture when it is needed. Truth syrum might work on this girl....but I say if that doesn't work....threaten to cut off all her fingers one by one until she talks.
This is a vicous cycle.
I will always say until North Americans learn to redfine community nothing will change. Moms, dads and many people are unstable. The odds however are stacked against the child when community is absent. Where is her family? This behaviour and mental unstability only escalates in isolation. When the village surrounds the child they are protected from the weakened links. Everyone here knows a parent that needs help however when we dont step in when we know we should we are a part of the problem not the solution!
This woman is a psycho. Hope she gets what she deserves. She certainly doesn't deserve to be a mother. What mother would use her INFANT to play sick games just to "get back" at the father – and to say things like "This is the last time you will see him" and to tell the father "I killed him" My God, this woman should rot in jail, but first sterilize this skank so she can't have any more children to use as pawns in some sick game. What did she think she would accomplish? What an idiot. Hope she dies. Yeah its bad to hope that but who needs pieces of crap like this on the planet.....and please dont start on the mentally ill thing and post partum thing – boo hoo – no sympathy here. She either killed her baby, or sold it for money. All to get back at someone that she felt "wronged" her in some way.
you know this Elizabeth Johnson, "mother", yea right she needs the crap kicked out of her..and i dont like how people say that parents who harm their child in that way killing them or hey just giving them to some random stranger she didnt know what ever her story is, why are people blaming..oh maybe she has some sort of mental ...disorder, yea she does and its called stupidity and ignorance. You know as of right now I am 2 weeks late for my period and scared to death that I might be pregnant. I am a 20 year almost 21 year old college student and this would be defiantly unexpected, so I recently went to one of those free clinic type deals for testing and the lady there told me this story about her unexpected pregnancy and then her daughters unexpected pergnancy but one thing she told me was that in the bible it says, "Lo, children are an heritage of the LORD: and the fruit of the womb is his reward", This means to me that every child no matter what the circamstances the parents may be in are gifts from God and he has a purpose for them in you life or someone elses maybe not when they are born or 10 years down the road or maybe when they are 80 who knows, but the simple fact is that baby Gabriel was a gift to her from God and has a purpose in someones life..who knows maybe she reli did find a couple to give im to maybe thats the way God wanted it but the least she could do is tell the police where he is. Thank You and God Bless.
Money?! She gets MONEY from the government for having this BABY!! So that is how she probably paid for gas and the hotel! GIVE ME A BREAK! Half of America is getting paid for popping out kids!!
PUT HER STANK %&$ IN JAIL....LET THE OTHER INMATES KNOW WHY SHE IS THERE AND LET JAILHOUSE JUSTICE PREVAIL.!!!!!!!...AN EYE FOR AN EYE....YOU NEED A LICENSE TO DRIVE, YOU NEED A LICENSE TO SERVE ALCOHOL BUT ANY IDIOT CAN PRO-CREATE?...CUT OUT HER GOOD PARTS AND LET THE OTHER CONVICTS DO HER IN..PLEASSSEEEEE LET HER SUFFER THE PUNISHMENT SHE SO DESERVES....KYLE
i don't understand how some people can be so cruel and nieve
i really think that she needs to start telling people the truth.
if she didn't want her baby, why did she get prego in the first place?
what goes through these women's minds that they make them snap and want to get rid of their babies?
it doesn't matter who you are and what you did.. or if you believe in God..if she tells the truth and gets it off her chest ...God will eventually forgive
that baby boy is so innocent ...and it's so sad
God is with you baby Gabriel
My thoughts and prayers go out to the family!~
I don't understand why the dad was just expected to give up his rights. Maybe I don't know all of this story, but the dad seemed to do the right things like call the police and get child services involved. What is society coming to when women can have these babies just to use as pawns or throw away? I am so sick of women having babies who can't or won't be mothers. Use protection, plan on adoption from the start or, though I don't believe in abortion, get an abortion. An abortion is better then killing your baby at 8 months or 4 years or whatever. As far as these "adoptive" parents go, why do they think they have more rights to this child then the father and grandparents? I wish people would think more and be a little less selfish.
I completely agree with Terry Zainc's comments.
It should have been absolutely 100% clear to the Smiths that this woman is looney! And the Smiths sat there and villified Gabriel's father and then admitted they never even met the man! I feel sorry for Gabriel's father. I hope the baby is okay, but the baby's mom does sound a lot like "tot mom."
Lets say for instance this woman had this planned. Considering the father could possibly be threatening to the baby and the mother. Maybe she actually knew the couple from the park, planned the exchange for whoever it is to keep the baby and the whereabouts concealed. Lets say they are close friends or relatives to this woman. That may be why she says the baby is safe. By her saying they are random bystanders at a park, she could just be using that as a cover up . Honestly, who would randomly take a baby in those circumstances of 20 minutes or so? Let's think literal here. Maybe those other people who were going to be the adoptive parents were also part of the setup to take off the idea she had someone else she knew to take the baby.
I agree with so many of the comments above. Where are Johnson's parents? Why won't the random couple come forth? Why didn't the adopting couple look more into the situation? Why haven't the cell phone calls and texts been looked into for where Johnson used it? Why haven't the motels been questioned more fully? Why haven't the dumpsters around anywhere that Johnson was searched and why hasn't anyone looked into the Six Flags trip Johnson supposedly took Gabriel on? And why can't we have a special task force of civilians that can also investigate because people tend to freak out when police are involved? However, I do know that it can't be post partum depression. Gabriel is 8 months old. That is too long for post partum depression to last. I think Johnson needs an in-depth mental evaluation after Gabriel is found, then she needs to be put to death or into a straight jacket where she can no longer reproduce for her remaining years. Because if Johnson gets released you can see from the comments that many people want her dead, so I don't think she will last that long if she ever gets released. I think that either the drug sodium pentothol should be given to her or the CIA should be called in to find a way to get the information out of her, such as using waterboarding maybe? Or the method of torture used in the movie Taken with the use of electricity would be a rather good idea as well. I hope someone will come forth with information because somebody has to know something. Whether it was black market or not. In the meantime Gabriel will be in my thoughts and prayers.
THIS IS JUST PLAIN SICK! WHAT A PRECIOUS BABY THAT SHE WAS BLESSED WITH! Its too bad she couldnt realize that. If I had a child I would be kissing him every second of the day, you created that isnt that special enough? God bless that baby, I pray that he is safe, warm, fed, and loved caz we all know she doesnt care enough for him. I love you Nancy Grace you go girl!
i dont understand how in the world can u tell someone u killed ur baby and tell what the child looked like and where u placed the child at that is soo distrubing i couldnt imagine hearin those words i killed ur baby he is in a baby bag in a dumpster and he was blueish how can u say something like that about ur own precise baby u created......GODS GIFT to u and u just throw it away...i swear there are some sick s.o.b's out there that need HELP!!!!!!!!!
Our department was one of many that was involved in looking for this woman and child in our area, so we are following this very closely. If she has done what is suspected, sell the child in San Antoino, there is the great possibility that he is across the border by now and the chances of recovery im afraid would be slim. I would pray that is not the case and the child is with kind hearted people that would have the childs best interest in mind who would find it in their heart to do the right thing and contact authorities. My prayers are with "baby Gabriel" for a safe return to his father.
If a responsible couple had taken the child they would have immediatley gone to the police station. I think 99.99% of people would have done that. Because no one turned in the baby I think it is scarey, and likely she killed her baby. As strangers in a park, I would have picked up on the Mom 's signal of giving him away and would have taken the baby just to protect it, and then taken him to the police. What are the odds she would randomly find a couple who would want to keep him? My mind can't wrap around killing and it can't wrap around randomly picking a couple who wouldn't turn the baby in. Was it the ADOPTIVE PARENTS TO BE??????????????????????
Ok so the hoped to be adoptive parents keeping making reference to how the mother feared for herself and her child. I know as a mother myself, if I feared for my child I would do anything and everything I could do to protect my child.
If she fears keeping her child around the father and thought she was at risk of her child being kept around the father. Wouldn't you as a parent do what you could to keep them far away. I don't know if I would use the same method as her, but I personally feel she is protecting her child and is why she is tight lipped about everything.
Plain and simple the CPS once again did not do its job.
I think before the Smith's or anyone else go on national television verbally bashing the father they should get the facts. Obviously this baby's mother is flippin nuts and I wouldn't believe a word she says. If you met someone who would willing just give you their baby wouldn't you think to call the police because something isn't right here? Why would you ever hand the baby back to a woman who addmits she doesn't want it without notifying the authorities for the baby's safety? Too many young women think they can have babies to keep a man in their life and then use the baby to control him. Now that she can't control him she's going to take away the baby. None of this makes sense. And if this evil woman did anything to hurt that baby I hope she rots in hell. My prayers are with the father that he see's his son alive and well soon.
GOD please bring Gabriel home........ Logan I'm sorry this has happen to you and your family..........
We as a community should always keep in mind that, fathers love there babies just as much as mothers and in a lot of cases, they are the better parent......... We should enbrace them and support them just as much as we do mothers.......... Also, the courts should change there thinking as well............. investigate before dismissing a fathers claim of abuse by the mother.......... Gabriel could be safe at home now if someone in the system really took time to investigate Logan's claims.
Mr. Logan, as bad as it looks, GOD is in control of this situation and trust that the outcome is of his will.............
Everyone, please say a prayer for Gabriel..........
and lets not forget shaniya or the 8 year old found in the dumpster or the little girl killed walking home etc etc etc it has become an epidemic here in the last few months its insane i dont understand it IF YOU DONT WANT KIDS DONT HAVE THEM!!!! if you have kids you dont want give then to someone who does gosh dern, if they arent screwing them up by living the wrong lives they are killing them!
i thought waterboarding was awful but damned if women like this dont give us a reason to use it. i mean really, this is a helpless child, how else could we make her say where the baby is without a little torture? we cant, we can try to reason with someone who doesnt care. crazy how this world works sometimes.
I wonder if she has a computer at home with access to internet and what authorities are finding on it..... Surely, they are searching that. Hopefully all of us that live here in Texas are keeping their eyes WIDE open for this baby boy.
Nancy this young woman should be presecuted to the full extent of the law! Not cooperating with the law? what is she thinking? she can't adopt this child out without the consent of the Father..she is using this child like a pawn in a chess game,,shame on her! She is the one who should have this baby taken away from HER! and another thing IF she did GIVE this baby away? why aren't the people she gave baby Gabriel away to coming forward with him..her actions are just plain crazy!,This poor child must be beside himself..poor child. I feel for the Father of Gabriel. He looks just heartsick and who can blame him..I pray she hasn't hurt this baby..God help her if she did kill him..I will continue to pray for his safe return, be strong Logan Your Son will come home.
The laws for battered mothers should be amended, to ensure a livable life after leaving an abuser. I have gone through the same things this mother did and I lost custody of my son and the father now has him, even though he punched me in the back of the head when I was five months pregnant causing blood to run out of my ear! This was all on video. Postpartum depression coupled with domestic violence leads to craziness! I have been there, I know what she's going through. It seems like there is no way out in a situation as such.
Laws need to be changed, anyone that abuses children, sentence should be execution. I hope this looser of a mom gets what is coming to her. Watch she will go to jail be out in a month or two and get pregnant again. Thats our laws, ok to do crimes you never stay in jail for long. Lets hope they find this baby alive but doubtful. No mercy for this looser.
what is she being charged with , she sounds so cold , all evidence shows that she has a violent temper, she knew she would lose custody and she is so vindictive that she will give her own baby to strangers unless she had been talking to someone in san antonio and already knew who she was giving gabriel to.
nancy,
love ya first off, i have not a doubt you will find this precious baby,i have been thinking how texas is very close to mexico and there is a obvious reason the "couple in the park" isn't coming forward,(they arent real,if they are they bought him and they're just as guilty,,, there is alot of humane people left in this world and i know if this girl would have handed me a baby i first would have stopped and got diapers and baby food then proceeded to the closest police station,. and this girl whom i REFUSE to call a mother,left her car at the hotel to throw police off her trail,and why would she do that if she wasnt guilty of something illegal?God Bless that baby,,,get this amber alert out in mexico screen phone calls that may have been placed in that texas hotel room she was in, this girl is not smarter than this entire country.
I agree with the lady who suggested to let the female inmates who would give anything to just see their children take care of her! I don't believe in violence but sometimes that is the only way to help the innocent!
I think the SMITHS need to be looked into more ! I do Not understand why you Nancy grace are embracing these two adults! They Should know that it is there responsibility to have called the cops when they first met her in the airport instead of trying to take someones child! HELLO! RED FLAG!
Now we have a child missing and to many lies from all parties except maybe the fathers!
If the Smith's would have called the POLICE or CPS right away this could have Maybe and I stress "MAYBE" been avoided. CPS and The Police are not perfect by no means but it would have been worth a try.
I think the SMITHS are just as involved. Also If anyone does have this child They would know to go to the police right away! Someone just does not walk up to a person in a park and say here take my child!
I really hope this baby is safe. And for the mother she doesnt need to be put in jail she needs to be thrown under the jail. She was in foster homes through out her life so i just dont think he is with her mother or father since her mother obviously couldnt take care of her when she was a child. I guess this girl picked up from her mothers bad mothering habbits. And i think the Smiths have a lot to do with this situation they just seem like people to look into. And why arent there amber alerts??? But i will be praying for this baby and his family.
Stupid trash having babies – What else is new?
I pray that they find this innocent boy alive and keep him as far away from his "mother" as possible. She sounds like a psycho who should have been sterilized. Little Gabriel will be in my prayers. I hope his "mother" gets what she deserves in jail.
I commented yesterday on the fact that someone shopuld take a closer look at that couple that wanted the baby and sure enough today they are persons of interest.
Someone asked about the grandparents. Good point. I haven't heard a word about them or from them. What's up with that?!!!
I believe firmly and have from the beginning that the so called adoptive parents know where this baby is and have been involved in encouraging his disappearance. How can they sit on National TV so calmly coaching each other - and never shedding a tear if they do NOT know that this baby is alive and well and where he is. I believe they have the keys to this mystery and I believe that encouraging their news appearances just feeds their narcissism - I hope Nancy Grace gets a grip and starts looking beyond the picture before she broadcasts - this case is appalling and very obvious to anyone that has any knowledge of human behavior. If you really love the child you would be devestated - unable to speak without tears - frightened beyond belief - instead these two are cool as cucumbers and as cold as ice. I hope the police methodically pull apart their finances and their connections to this crime and that this child is returned to his father - who seems really concerned and who seems to care for the well being of his son.
Thank you for listening
The system failed this child.I wonder what little children think when social workers come to a house.,and a child is hurt physically and They. are crying out for help.The case workers say well.Straighten yourself up..They leave and the beatings now begin..These types of monsters never change,EVER..DEATH PENALTY.I hope casey anthoney get's it soon.She is another that loves herself,and she is so damm ugly inside and out.People pray for this baby to be found safe.If he isnt pray for the systen to put this trash to death.Anybody that would leave a message saying i killed your son.Cant be anything .but pure white trash...And by the way.Im white.These trashy spoiled women are doing these killings....A statement needs to be made.you hurt children,YOU DIE!!!!!!!!!!!
this case is so sad. hoping and praying that this beautiful baby boy is safe.
The Smith's are involved....they said: "we have sources" who would provide information as to the wereabouts of Baby Gabriel....
Who are those people and where are they?????
Who are these people who can provide information to them instead of the Police Dept.???
Have they send Baby Gabriel to another Country?
In the interview tonight, there was a discussion about diaper rash, Tammi Smith said when answering Nancy's question "he did have the rash when we got him." What does she mean by "when we got him." Was there any time period when the Smith's had the baby with them?
WHY IS EVERYONE SO SURPRISED THAT THE PERSONS WHO WANTED TO ADOPT THIS CHILD HAVE BEEN NAMED PERSONS OF INTEREST? THE MAN SEEMED VERY NERVOUS WHEN NANCY QUESTIONED THEM. THE WOMAN WAS COOLER BUT MUCH TOO WILLING TO BELIEVE EVERYTHING THIS GIRL TOLD THEM WITH SUPPOSEDLY ONLY KNOWING HER FOR A FEW WEEKS. I THINK IT IS VERY POSSIBLE THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE INVOLVED IN A CONSPIRACY WITH THE MOTHER OF THE CHILD TO HIDE THE CHILD FROM THE FATHER UNTIL THEY THINK THIS HAS BLOWED OVER AND I SUSPECT THAT SOMEONE CONNECTED WITH THESE PEOPLE HAS THE CHILD.
I commented yesterday about these "adoptive" parents being selfish and it's worse than that... they might be involved. I just get a totally weird vibe from them. They seem so nonchalant probably because they know where this baby is. Perhaps they have friends or family where ever this "exchange" took place. I am sick of people bashing the father. This couple is just going on this psycho’s word about the father. This Smith woman is sooo flippant... something is wrong there! This needs to be a great example to every state... FATHERS NEED MORE RIGHTS!
By the way I am a pregnant mother of a 20 month old and a 9 month old!
I`ve been following this story and on tonights show, the adoptive parents are people of interest. Could there be a possibility that the mother of Gabriel could have left him with friends or family of the adoptive parents before she had gone on the bus?
The Smith couple appeared extremely nervous, both of them twiddlling their thumbs during tonights interview with Nancy. Did anyone notice when Tammi Peters Smith nudged Jack (twice) while he was anwering a question? I got the impression she was letting him know that he was revealing too much information. Also, when Nancy asked if the baby had diaper rash and she answered yes rather quickly, Jack seemed uncomfortable and nudged his head toward Tammi.
I COULD NOT HELP NOTICE THE HANDS OF THE COUPLE THAT WERE SUPPOSE TO ADOPT BABY GAB, BOTH OF THEM KEPT TWIDDLING THERE THUMBS LIKE THEY WERE NERVOUS EVERY TIME NANCY ASKED A QUESTION, I REALLY THINK THEY KNOW MORE THEN WHAT THEY ARE WILLING TO RELEASE!!! THEY HAVE NO RIGHT TO HELP THIS CRAZY GIRL IN KEEPING THIS CHILD FROM IT'S FATHER. TO BE HONEST FOR SOME REASON I JUST DON'T LIKE THE SMURK ON THE WOMAN'S FACE WHEN ASKED A QUESTION, I THINK SHE IS STARTING TO LIKE THE MEDIA ATTENTION!!
This woman is clearly psycho and should be in jail for the rest of her life...I Hope and pray they find that beautiful little boy safe and alive
The desk clerk from the Tornado Bus station made a a comment that
Elizabeth had a very large back pack when she purchased her ticket .
This was playing over in my head, is it possible that the body of a little eight month old baby could have been in that back pack. When the Police arrested her did she have the pack with her?
I am also very suspicious of the couple that is now subjects of interest. did anybody else out there see how the wife REPEATEDLY tapped her husbands leg during Nancy's interview last night AND how the wife looked at husband as though she was hushing him... THEY KNOW SOMETHING...
I agree that there is something not right about this couple. I have been upset and talking to the TV as to why NG is "letting them be so in the know" abt what is best for this child. I see all kinds of red flags. Last night they didn't know the custody details they said one thing totally opposite as to what the court papers said. I saw her hit her husband in leg when he was talking. first night,they were bashing the father and saying the mother would stay in jail to keep him from the person she thought would harm him. They had a aggenda. Seems like they were on the hunt for someone ready to give them their children. Are they going through foster care ?or are they just getting their own agreements, not going through a judge? investigate them please.
Did the Smiths every have Gabriel in their physical custody for any period of time? Such as for a weekend?
WHERE ARE BABY GABRIEL"S GRANDPARENTS?
It makes my stomach turn that there are actually people in the world who give birth and the hand off their precious children with out second thought, there are women and men who would give anything to give such a beautiful gift to the world. I mean it is compeletly absurd that anyone is capable of these despicable actions....I am nineteen , i dont have any children and to most my age alone makes me arguably wet behind the ears but I am fully aware that to enflict bodily harm or to participate in anything that could harm a child is insane or anyone else for that matter....seriously the truth will unfold people dont just turn coo coo over night there were signs some where and it upsets me that family and friends who spend quality time with these people dont ever stop and question the future harm their offsprings might be in once the ball drops......
This world really makes me sick to my stomach. I worry every day for my kids. I can not imagine harming them. Yeah i get frustrated with them but who doesnt? its called have a mommy timeout. Make sure the kids are safe and go in the other room and give yourself a timeout. I find it so hard to even imagine a mother hurting her own child. If you are not responsible enough to have a child it is called adoption. There are plenty of couples out there that want children and cant have them. Either close your legs or give the baby to someone who wants them. There is no reason that anyone could tell me that would justify hurting someone who doesnt understand why you are hurting them. Children Gabriel's age and even older dont know what is right and wrong. They dont understand and for someone to hurt a child sickens me.
WHY did the Smiths NOT call the police during any time that they were in contact with the mother(Elizabeth)? WHY, especially after the bio dad said he would not sign adoption papers, that they did not call the police for the welfare of the child? Why, after Elizabeth told the father that the baby was dead;(and the Smiths said they knew she had, that same day); did they not call the police? Why are they saying they DID have more info about this "underground", that they did NOT call the police immediately? I believe the Smiths are guilty of with-holding evidence; lying to the police, and neglect against a child, and charges should be brought against them. I wrote an E-mail to Nancy saying this, days ago, but as usual, I was ignored.
I don't get a good vibe from the Smiths, either. I wish the father had come on NG as a guest instead of the Smiths. We hear tonight that Mr. Smith was in the music business in Nashville for 30 or 35 years. He also has family members living in Nashville. No wonder they are "persons of interest." Mark Klass took the words right out of my mouth tonight when he questioned why the Smiths had not been totally upfront from the very beginning. Why were they just now mentioning the "underground" domestic violence shelter and the close family members in Nashville.
I am so sick and tired of seeing these moms kill or mistreat their children. If they don't want them, let someone adopt them. There are plenty of wonderful couples out there that can't have children. I just pray that little Gabreil is safe and that GOD protects him and he comes home safely.
I wonder why she went to San Antonio, TX, then I looked at a map. It is very close to Mexico. Could she have sold her baby to someone who now has him in Mexico? Is there a way to make this story public in Mexico? I suspect that the mother may have a drug habit and was willing to sell her baby for money.
I have 2 children under the age of 2 and am pregnant again and I sometimes question having children. What kind of world do we live in when people act this way. There is something wrong with the morals of society, and I don't mean religious morals, I just mean plain right and wrong. I am hurting for this child and I hope he comes home to his family, but in a week or so there will be another, then another and so on. What are we not teaching people that we use to? Why does this keep happening? I think it is great that everyone is praying for this baby, but maybe we should pray for real change and while we are praying mabye we should all do things to make changes. We need to help young people more, be there for others. We need be involved with our state laws and rally more for causes. I just want this craziness to stop.
Just how stupid can these people be? I mean come on, taking a lie detector test that is little more than a crude mind reading device that relies upon telling a lie to detect a lie? The police state knows how to manipulate these tests to get any answer they want.
It is a machine for crying out loud. It has been conclusively proven unreliable. Fully, 50% or more of the FBI has learned how to cheat the lie detector so they can get a job. These liars do this every day! Get a clue people. There is no mind reading device that works. This is voodoo mind reading at its best that is designed to create scapegoats. It is an absolute conclusive fact that mind reading devices (lie detectors) do not work.
Learn about the lie behind the lie detector. You cannot tell a lie to detect a lie. It is fact.
Been there done that. I know. I had the Seattle police department pull this crap on me. They literally told me endless lies to make me fail the test. The FBI and all police department are trained on how to make you fail this test, and they use the lies every day as a matter of standard practice.
Learn about the lie behind the lie detector.
http://antipolygraph.org/
Cheers!
Something like this happened around 2 years ago with a san antonio woman (it was really big on the news) no one knew if he'd been taken or what, she ended up claiming to have killed her infant and thrown him in a ditch when she had really just given him to strangers across state lines. He's since been given to the womans sister back in san antonio pending no contact with the mother.
Wait a minute ... I have been watching this story on Baby Gabriel and I was just watching again (Sunday Night). Earlier Tammi says she met Elizabeth 7 months ago. When Nancy asked Tammi if she thought Elizabeth was capable of killing Gabriel she said no. But she wasn't sure because she has only know her for about 3 or 4 weeks. How can you know someone for 7 months one day and then only know them 3 or 4 weeks another?? Now correct me if I am wrong but that is what I just heard on the show. I want to know what's up with that. This leads me to believe now more than ever that Jack and Tammi Smith know where Baby Gabriel is. I have been to Tammi's myspace page and she says she is all about God well I hope God has Mercy on your Soul because you are a liar and you need to let this baby go home to his father where he belongs. You people are sick and need help. May God smile down on Baby Gabriel and Brng him home to his Daddy where he belongs. Logan if you see this please keep your faith in God and keep your head up. Bless you and your beautiful Son.
Has anyone checked with Zanny the Nanny?
Hello Everyone, I would like to say i hardly miss The Show Nancy I love you and the show, you are wonderful and your babies are so beautiful which brings me to a suggestion, Is it possible that you are to close to this case because the similiarities with your own babies at that age?
I see alot of ppl have already commented on the fact that Tammi was obviously making sure her husband did not slip up when she did herself she said they MET seven months ago and baby gabriel is only 8months but later goes onto to say the have only known her for 3-4 weeks.
Both Smiths are twiddeling their thumbs simultanously as if there way to stay focused on the subject at hand rather than just being as "innocent as they portray" and flat out honest. Yani is who they say they got their information from as to how they figured out were the hand-off of the baby was?? WHO IS YANI??? I feel it something is not rite. Ok i'm sorry im an tearing this apart so much but i DvR the show wen i'm not home to watch it. so luclkily this nite i have been able to go back rewatch and pause and blog. So not only does Tammi Smith do the leg Tapping she cuts him off and answers for him as in the question how much were they in contact with them after Jonhson left? he starts to attempt to answer in what i interrupt to be fumbling and she answers for him by the myspace page. How do you hack into someones myspace spage? Finally she slipt again when she said wen we GOT the baby, as well as wen Mr. Smith is answering the how did he describe it PULL that he said was their wen and Mrs. Smith has a clenched hand and goes to tap him not once but twice and ALL this in my opinoin is They know Nancy. You have not let me down in exploring every option of a case look a little closer to this nite.
I also have to children and both have very sensitve skin both my children can't drink apple juice, orange juice, etc. without deluting it half and half with water and at that it sometimes didntt work. so I strongly disagree with comment. Other than that My prayers are so hopefull that we find baby Gabriel alive and back to the loving family it belongs too whomever that may be as i am fairly new with this story but have tried to research. best regards and god bless.
Nancy.... I love you and your show..... you are my hero.... I think there is something very strange about the couple that wanted to adopt this beautiful baby.... something in there body language upsets me.... I pray this precious little one is found alive and well..... Keep up the good work and give those precious twins a hug for me...
A few points to make. If they try to 'force' her for a confession she could easily lie and it is not admissible in court. So all of you saying that they should do this to her, they should do that to her clearly don't know the law very well. If it is NOT admissible in court, she will get off scott-free.
It is strange the supposed 'adoptive' parents did not do further investigations into this woman and her claims. Does that make them guilty of something? Maybe. But most likely, they were blinded by her story. Anyone who has a heart could be blinded by a sob story. People do forget their logic when it comes to the love of a child. It does happen.
In regards to the father, although I do think he is weak. He should of been protecting his child better. There should of been a more thorough investigation done on the mother and here is why.
From some of her stories it would seem she has post partum psychosis. If you have PPP you become delusional. Yes she could have hurt her baby but since her brain is not working properly and she is not being evaluated or treated. The baby could be alive but she is not coping with what she did do with him.
If all of those involved had bothered to do their own research and get in contact with proper help. It would not be escalating to this right now, or it could of possibly been prevented. Mental issues are real and they are serious. Do I think those who have mental problems should get off? Depends on the severity of the crime and their psychosis and whether it is recoverable. But no matter what, when someone commits a crime they need to be held accountable.
It's sad to say that there are really sick people out here in the world. Reading all of this i can say sadly that the baby is probably dead. I believe that she really wanted a baby but couldn't afford to provide for the baby so she went into a wild state. sick world these days.
Hi nancy
I'm a new comer to ur show. I seen your show last night and saw mrs smith grab mr smith on the leg to tell him to stop talking it was as if he was saying to much about what they know about baby gabriel. I think they know where or what has happen to baby gabriel. I think the mother of this baby has killed him. U said the last time she was seen was in her car and she got out went to a bus stop and got on with a backpack. I think that baby gabriel was in her backpack and she dump him somewhere between tx and flo
Where is this girls parents ? No one has even talked about them,they have talked about the grandfather but no other family members...
I think the people that were supposedly were going to adopt don't appear to be acting in a manner which contitutes people who say they have a close bond or love for the child. I would be distraught. I wouldn't even be able to speak. I am saddened by the creul nature of such harsh actions against a child that cannot even defend himself.
This story seems so familar .. This was how the Casey Anthony case started the mom went shopping when the child was missing and not telling anyone, playing games making up stories and they can't be trusted in anything they say. Both these mothers have similar stories.. I just pray and hope this does not end up like the Casey Anthony case.
Is there such a drug that can be used to make her tell the truth? There has to be a way. She certainly is getting alot of attention and probably doesn't realize how many people are praying.
I was wondering if Sylvia the 'psychic' could be brought into this
investigation, it's way passed time for the F.B.I. to be interrogating the Mother.
Nancy I am still holding out for the Miracle of Baby Gabrial being found safely. I only hope and pray he is being fed and cared for. He is a beautiful gift from Heaven.
Please, please keep broadcasting the importance of finding Baby Gabrial. You must not stop. The baby is sad and depressed because his mother has left him and does not want him. We must make sure he ihas a chance of being placed in a loving home and is happy once again with a loving family. Please continue your help. Do not stop. I beg you and I pray.
I keep hearing about tylenol recall and wonder if this plays a part in what happened to baby G. I won't call her his mommy like NG keeps doing because whatever happened current accounts are enough for me to believe she should never have been alone with this baby! also at 18 yrs. old any one should know to follow intuition and the babysitter girl sensed something was wrong! I think she should be ashamed at going on tv for i see no real help from her – had she cared That baby would be in good hands!!!!!!!
WOW! I've been listening to this story on the news and it saddens me to think people do these types of things to their own children. I hope and pray little Gabriel will be returned to his Father. After reading this I feel hopeful that she did just give the baby away and that he is with someone alive and well. I, as a mother can imagine hurting my any child , much les my own children and would be ready and willing to try to kill someone who did! That's what mothers do!!!!!!
Mardeanne, I've been thinking the same thing. The drug you're suggesting is sodium pentathol and is a "truth serum" that's rendered results in the past.
Normally, I would never condone injecting someone with that or anything else (against their will.) But this case is why we have exceptions: that baby's life could be in jeopardy.
If Gabriel is never found (God forbid) then she will likely be advised to stick to her story, as a murder conviction is hard to get when there is no body. But I hope they're also telling her that if he is, in fact, alive and well, that the charges against her would be relatively minor, particularly compared to a first degree murder charge. It might sway her to tell who's keeping her child - a lifelong prison sentence is not an appealing notion.
A public plea should be made, with a guarantee of no filed charges to whomever brings him forth. Give maybe 24 hours for someone to speak up, and telling them if they DON'T speak up, they will face felony charges.
But as it is, if Gabriel WAS given to a couple to adopt, they should know by now that they cannot raise him with any normalcy; they'll be constantly looking over their shoulders. They wouldn't be able to take the child outside or in public for fear of recognition.
I found some of the responses from the babysitter were just a bit odd, did anyone else think so? I mean, I'm sure she had nothing to do with Gabriel's disappearance, but her statements – especially those from the first interview – just didn't make sense to me.
She said Gabriel was "scared." How does she know that, did he flinch away from her or seem afraid of his mother? If not, then how exactly can one tell if someone "seems scared." And she said the baby was very dirty when she babysat. And then tonight she commented on his pictures, and when questioned, said he was NOT dirty that night (I specifically remember her doing that in the first interview, describing his dirty nose, for one.) And as far as the mother going to a club while she babysat... it wasn't even noon when she went where ever she went. I don't know anyone who gets all decked out to go to a club, then goes there in the middle of the day, and is back home within an hour and a half. She kept repeating that she was dressed to party, yet it's quite clear that isn't where she went at all. Also, if the baby appeared to be in danger or neglected, she should've called Child Protective Services. I've nothing against her, I just found her testimony a little strange.
As for the Smiths, I still have a feeling they know more than they let on. They seemed to be enjoying their 15 minutes of spotlight. If a child I loved was in imminent danger, I'd be a complete wreck and definitely not suitable to appear on TV! And Mrs.Smith using her cousin's name as a possible father? Who DOES that? They say they bonded with Gabriel - if that's so, where is your pain and concern? I remember their first interview, when Mr.Smith said, "...We have contacts – ain't that cool?" Ummm, how about no?
So yes, I do agree the interviewers use more – ah – aggressive methods of getting her to talk. I'm all for the constitution and for human rights, but this child has rights too - his father has rights. It is not up to Elizabeth to decide whether or not he should be with his father. I gotta say, I cannot imagine what's going through his mind. The image of his son, blue in death, in a dumpster must just be haunting for him... it's haunting for me, and I've never even met him.
I agree with the posts that commented on the number of mothers who decide to give up their children to live a child-free life; what kind of people ARE these? And why is it so prevalent now, as opposed to, say, 20 years ago? (Yes, there were a few scattered stories, but this... THIS is an epidemic!)
I hope Elizabeth's lawyer relays to her that if Gabriel's body is found, she will be charged with Murder One and she'll likely be found guilty. But she could prevent that by showing where his body is in exchange for the prosecution not seeking the death penalty. Once that baby (or body) is found, lost is her get-out-of-jail free card.
I wish for Elizabeth Johnson a long and painful stay in a maximum security prison for the grief she's solely responsible for having caused. And for Gabriel to come home to his family.
Godspeed, little man.
Only our Lord our God knows what happen to this angel face baby. It's truly sad!
There's got to be something that can be done to make the mother talk. Isn't there such a thing as truth serum that could be injected into her arm that would make her talk. Also who is telling her to keep quiet? There are some people in authority who know more than they are saying.
The longer they wait to get to the truth, the longer Gabriel will remain without anyone to comfort him. His Dad is genuinely interested in him. His tears were real. He keeps saying how dangerous Elizabeth is.
He's being kept in the dark and he has every right to know about his son. He's such a little angel and I know we are all hoping and praying for his safe return.
Dear Lord I pray for the safety of this child....I grew up in a very abusive home and I cried many nights asking why me,,,what did I do wrong,,,This baby deserves to have a loving family, and a safe place to sleep and belong...CPS is not the answer they dont have the true feelings for any of these babies, I know I grew up with them in my life, they go home and sleep at night while ure being abused, dont give Gabriel to them or back to his sick mother.....Bring him back safe and alive...Thank you Lord....
i just hope and pray that this sweet baby will be found soon my heart goes out for him i don't understand why their are these kind of women who get pregnat but don't want them how can a mother be this sorry and just so cold hearted
I have a question regarding this story, but it also pertains to every other story–Why is it that while we always have police, FBI, the public and people like Nancy Grace working to uncover truth and get to information that will solve crimes, we have the juxtaposition of the legal system, ie LAWYERS, that tell their clients to keep quiet? Why is it that legal representation always works at hiding the truth and causing more pain and wondering for crime victims as well as the depletion of already overburdened police and crimefighting resources? Why is it that Elizabeth Johnson pled "not guilty" to kidnapping charges when she said in her interview that she did not bring her baby to a safe haven because she didn't want to be charged with kidnapping?
i dont believe he is dead because any mom would have some kind of remorse and emotions if she knew she killed him. I believe honestly a couple has him. even though they may not be in this country. The couple could have been from mexico has anyone gotten anything of trying to go to the border of mexico?
i really dont think this lady killed her child. i beleive he is fine an he is safe maybe with a family member or maybe she gave him away. but im a mother of 3 and i would do anything to protect my children, and thats what i think she did. now if its proven she did kill her kid i beleive she should be killed the same way. i pray they find the baby alive an hope they find out the truth an the child is placed in the right place. i think he's ok. maybe he's in hiddin.
Undoubtfully great story u have here. It'd be really cool to read a bit more concerning such matter. Thanx for giving this info.
Summer HOWARD
Please someone get these women help. They need to be love. They need to know that it's ok to give their kids to someone who cares. Take them to church, neighbor, or hospital and tell them they cant provide for them anymore. Please stop using your kids to punish men. Your only hurting yourself and kids. Please seek professional help. God Bless that beauiful baby and I pray that she is well and get help for her mother. To her mom: Be a mother to your baby and take care of her, I took care of mine by myself. It take prayers and common sense. Love, emotions, support, and prayer.